Amps & Modeling

I Said Modeling Amps Would Catch Up in 2001. Here Is the Scorecard

I Said Modeling Amps Would Catch Up in 2001. Here Is the Scorecard

By Mike · Published October 11, 2026

In late April 2001 I got into a few arguments on alt.guitar.amps about modeling amps. At the time I played tube amps only, and I wrote some things down that I can now check against what happened. This is a scorecard of my own predictions, using the posts themselves. It is not a verdict on whether any modeler sounds identical to a tube amp. I have not run a blind test, and I am not going to pretend I have. If you want the practical version of that argument, it is in Tube Amps vs. Modelers.

What I wrote in April 2001

The line I would most like to take back is also the one that turned out to matter most: “I only play tube amps. Right now, that is.” The next sentence was “At some point in time, that will change. The amps are on pace to get good enough rather quickly.”

I also wrote that if I could find a modeling amp with 95% of the tone of a few amps I liked, I would play it. I said pros could tell them apart from the real thing then, but that I expected the difference to become inaudible over time. I said touring pianists had already moved to digital baby grands, because pianos have fewer variables to model. And I said that carrying 250 pounds of gear to make a tone that gets miked anyway was a bit antiquated.

In a separate thread, someone compared a modeler to a CD, a digital copy of an analog sound. I disagreed. A CD copies a sound, I said, and a modeler has to reproduce behavior: how the amp responds when you play harder, turn a knob or roll off your guitar. I also wrote that I trusted digital for copying tones but not yet for creating them, and that this would change as the technology got better. About a hardware example from that month, I said a Line 6 POD into a board worked “decently” for guitar parts in a big band, though not for a guitar-based band.

The scorecard

What I said in 2001What happenedScore
Modelers would get good enough “rather quickly.”The Line 6 POD, which I was talking about in 2001, came out in 1998. The Kemper Profiler debuted at NAMM in 2011. Line 6 launched the Helix floorboard modeler in 2015, and Fractal Audio, whose first product was the Axe-Fx, was founded in 2006.Direction right, timing optimistic. “Quickly” meant about a decade.
Digital is trusted for copying tones before creating them.The Kemper works by feeding a sweep of noise into a real amp and capturing it through a mic on the cab, then building a digital copy of that rig.I did not see profiling coming, but copying was exactly how the next step arrived.
The difference would become inaudible.Fender announced the Tone Master Deluxe Reverb on July 18, 2019. Fender's own product page calls its tone, volume and dynamics “virtually indistinguishable” from the all-tube original.Not scored. That is Fender describing its own amp, and I have not done the blind test.
One amp to the gig, with less weight.Fender lists the Tone Master Deluxe Reverb at 23 pounds and says that is about half the weight of an all-tube Deluxe. A Canadian retailer's Q&A gives the shipping weight of the tube '65 Deluxe Reverb reissue as 48.4 pounds, with the unpacked weight a bit lower.Hit, with the caveat that shipping weight is not the same as the amp on your shoulder.
Pianos went digital, so guitar will too.I wrote that touring pros had moved to digital baby grands. I have not checked that claim.Not scored.

The Fender specs above come from Fender's product page, which also lists a 100-watt digital power amp that simulates 22 watts and a 12-inch Celestion Neo Creamback. Other retailers list a different neodymium speaker, so check the exact model you are buying.

What I missed

In 2001 I was picturing a modeling combo as the answer: one amp, a few switches, a lot of tones. What actually happened is more interesting. The winners were floor and rack units that go into a powered cab, and a tube-amp company that decided to build a digital version of its own classic. I did not predict either.

I also did not predict that the cab would become the next question. I covered that in Do FRFR Cabs Sound Different? and why I moved to the Tone Master FR-10. The short version is that in 2001 I was worried about weight and versatility, and in 2026 I am asking what the speaker in the box is doing.

The “right now” part

I wrote “right now” in 2001 because I could feel it was temporary. These days the rack has both. I own tube amps, including a handwired '65 Deluxe Reverb and several Buddas, and when I sold off a big chunk of the traditional gear I kept the Kemper Profiler Stage on purpose. You can see the full list in what is in my rack right now.

If you are deciding which way to go, the useful lesson from the scorecard is not that I predicted the future. It is that the specs I cared about in 2001 were weight, versatility and reliability, and those are the ones the digital side clearly delivered. Whether it sounds the same is a question you can only answer yourself, with your guitar, through the speaker you will actually use. Do that test before you trust anyone's scorecard, including mine.

Frequently asked questions

When did modeling amps get good enough for gigging?

There is no single date. The Line 6 POD arrived in 1998, the Kemper Profiler debuted in 2011, the Helix floorboard modeler launched in 2015, and Fender announced a digital Deluxe Reverb in 2019. Which of those is good enough depends on your ears, your rig and your room.

Is the Fender Tone Master Deluxe Reverb a modeling amp?

Fender describes it as a digital, tubeless amp that models the circuitry and 22-watt output of an original Deluxe Reverb, using a 100-watt digital power amp. Fender lists it at 23 pounds.

How does the Kemper Profiler work?

It feeds frequency-swept white noise into a target amp, captures the result through a microphone on the speaker cabinet, and builds a digital copy of that setup.

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About the author: Mike has been helping independent musicians make smart gear decisions since 2004, when he started MusicWide. A1Guitar is where the guitar side of that work lives.